Dr. Tracy White welcomes her spiritual sister and friend Dr. Martha Salazar-Zamora, 2023 Texas Superintendent of the Year and a national finalist, for an honest conversation about what it takes to lead public education in a polarized era.

“This interview took place at the end of 2024, some events may have developed or changed since the recoding of this episode.”

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